On his eponymous Sunday morning present, MSNBC’s Ali Velshi let Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett (D-TX) evaluate ICE brokers to slave patrols and declare they’re committing crimes, and Velshi fretted that President Donald Trump is making a police power that’s “missing accountability,” and agreed with Crockett’s assertions that the way in which to battle crime is with poverty applications and specializing in weapons.
Shortly after 10:00 a.m., Velshi put a adverse spin on utilizing the Nationwide Guard to assist reduce crime as he launched the primary phase: “We start this morning with the promise — the specter of a contemporary escalation of Donald Trump’s marketing campaign to take over the streets of American cities with undesirable, unwelcome deployments of federalized Nationwide Guard troops.” Undesirable by whom?
After Crockett got here aboard as a visitor, she alluded to ICE brokers not too long ago killing a suspect in Chicago and instructed that ICE dedicated against the law by doing so:
We all know, as we have seen this over-policing because it pertains to ICE in addition to these legal acts which might be really being perpetrated by ICE. We simply noticed that somebody was killed in Chicago, so, like, I do not know who’s bringing extra crime to the streets proper now, particularly relating to ICE. So the over-policing has by no means labored.
Velshi agreed: “It is simply statistical. I imply, we all know it does not work, proper? We all know in cities the place crime has been lowered, it has been lowered by — it is quite a few issues on the identical time One in all which is poverty discount. Proper? And poverty discount applications have been killed underneath the Huge Stunning Invoice.”
It was not talked about that the suspect who was killed resisted arrest and severely injured an ICE agent by dragging him along with his automotive! Let’s guess Velshi would not suppose that was “unruly.”
A bit later, Crockett defended shoplifting as she claimed that some individuals who commit crimes should not criminals.
And, throughout a dialogue of the U.S. Supreme Courtroom ruling that the Trump administration can proceed to do ICE raids in Los Angeles despite a decrease courtroom ruling, Velshi complained concerning the sort of police power President Trump is constructing: “…how can individuals who like Donald Trump or do not like Donald Trump perceive that he appears to be constructing a police power that’s not topic to the traditional guidelines that both policing or navy needs to be topic to? It is a kind of a police power that is missing accountability.”
Though previous statistics recommend that about 2,000 homicides are dedicated by immigrants every year which might be really recognized about, Crockett quickly claimed that “white supremacists” kill a number of occasions extra individuals than immigrants:
We’re not taking a look at the truth that immigrants, no matter what number of occasions you are going to cherry choose and say, “Effectively, there was this one immigrant that was right here illegally, and so they ended up killing this one particular person” — nicely, for each immigrant that you’ve got an instance of, I am going to increase you at the very least two to 5 white supremacists, if no more, proper?
She went on to say that ICE reminds her of slave patrols:
However, as any person who understands historical past, after I see ICE, I see slave patrols. Now, I by no means lived by the slave patrol interval, but when the historical past of policing on this nation, then you definately perceive that they have been born out of slave patrols. And now with the Supreme Courtroom saying this, it is virtually like you may simply go seize them up. That’s what they’re saying. And that could be a downside.
The MSNBC host gave no pushback as he simply wrapped up the phase.
Transcript follows:
MSNBC’s Velshi
September 14, 2025
10:00 a.m. Japanese
ALI VELSHI: We start this morning with the promise — the specter of a contemporary escalation of Donald Trump’s marketing campaign to take over the streets of American cities with undesirable, unwelcome deployments of federalized Nationwide Guard troops.
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I talked to Justin Pearson yesterday from Memphis, and one of many sensible issues about individuals who come from cities the place there are crime charges is that they do not — they do not depend on these statistics that say violent crime is down by X share — they notice that violent crime is a foul factor —
CONGRESSWOMAN JASMINE CROCKETT (D-TX): Precisely.
VELSHI: — and all people thinks so.
CROCKETT: Precisely.
VELSHI: And the methods through which you undercut violent crime are by issues that occur in communities, by gun violence safety. These should not the issues which might be occurring right here. So Justin Pearson was all about the truth that “Yeah, we acquired against the law downside — we’re actually completely satisfied to have the federal authorities’s assist,” however this does not ever resolve that downside.
CROCKETT: No. They do not like information — they completely detest these items — however even while you have a look at what Maxwell Frost did, Maxwell Frost led the way in which as to the creation of the gun violence prevention workplace throughout the White Home. What did Donald Trump do?
VELSHI: Which was actually — actually profitable till January 20.
CROCKETT: What did Donald Trump do:
VELSHI: I feel he shut it down on the primary day or one thing.
CROCKETT: He completely did. He removed it. And so we’ve the information that reveals what it takes to carry this down.
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CROCKETT: We all know, as we have seen this over-policing because it pertains to ICE in addition to these legal acts which might be really being perpetrated by ICE. We simply noticed that somebody was killed in Chicago, so, like, I do not know who’s bringing extra crime to the streets proper now, particularly relating to ICE. So the over-policing has by no means labored.
VELSHI: It is simply statistical. I imply, we all know it does not work, proper? We all know in cities the place crime has been lowered, it has been lowered by — it is quite a few issues on the identical time —
CROCKETT: Precisely.
VELSHI: One in all which is poverty discount.
CROCKETT: Completely.
VELSHI: Proper? And poverty discount applications have been killed —
CROCKETT: Yeah
VELSHI: — underneath the Huge Stunning Invoice.
CROCKETT: Yeah.
VELSHI: And the DOGE cuts.
CROCKETT: And poverty is on its method up.
VELSHI: And SNAP has been reduce.
CROCKETT: Yeah.
VELSHI: Who’s making — who’s fraudulently utilizing SNAP? And what do you? What do you commerce off your six bucks for?
CROCKETT: Right. Your six {dollars} a day. Like these are the individuals which might be getting wealthy off of the federal authorities (inaudible) …
VELSHI: Yeah, yeah, however that is conceptually our downside, proper? That we’re scraping each final greenback — we’re squeezing each final greenback out of people that can least afford it —
CROCKETT: Precisely.
VELSHI: — in order that the merger can undergo with Union Pacific.
CROCKETT: Precisely, precisely. However that is every little thing that they are doing. Every thing is concerning the billionaires.
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However you talk about poverty and also you talk about crime. As somebody who was a public defender, I can let you know that I higher perceive a number of the issues that find yourself permitting for crime to proliferate in sure communities. And I do wish to make this distinction. Simply because there may be crime going down, it doesn’t essentially imply that it’s a “legal.” There’s a distinction — there are folks that actually are participating in crime out of necessity. They usually have, , defenses that they will wage and issues like that. There are individuals which might be saying, “Pay attention, I must care for my baby, and so I must get this system. I must get these diapers, and I’ll do what I’ve acquired to do.”
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10:22 a.m.
VELSHI: And naturally the complication right here is due to the shadow docket stuff — you’d suppose that if you are going to assault one thing that’s an modification within the Structure, and you are going to say that there is one thing improper with it, I would prefer to have an intensive airing of that.
CROCKETT: Sure, yeah. No oral arguments on this situation — not listening to the place the perimeters are coming from — not listening to from the justices and having them ask questions and actually take a look at it and make it possible for it stands as much as constitutional muster. No, it’s a very harmful factor to do, particularly on this time of over-policing —
VELSHI: Yeah.
CROCKETT: — by this uncontrolled government.
VELSHI: That is the difficulty, proper? That is the place I am attempting to determine, how can individuals who like Donald Trump or do not like Donald Trump perceive that he appears to be constructing a police power that’s not topic to the traditional guidelines that both policing or navy needs to be topic to. It is a kind of a police power that is missing accountability.
CROCKETT: No, there isn’t any accountability, and it is going after its American individuals, proper? Like the concept any of us wish to be unsafe on this nation is totally absurd, proper? I do not care what your political affiliation is — I do not care what your cultural background is — none of us wish to be unsafe.
VELSHI: Yeah.
CROCKETT: However we’re not trying on the information. We’re not taking a look at the truth that immigrants, no matter what number of occasions you are going to cherry choose and say, “Effectively, there was this one immigrant that was right here illegally, and so they ended up killing this one particular person” — nicely, for each immigrant that you’ve got an instance of, I am going to increase you at the very least two to 5 white supremacists, if no more, proper?
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CROCKETT: However, as any person who understands historical past, after I see ICE, I see slave patrols. Now, I by no means lived by the slave patrol interval, but when the historical past of policing on this nation, then you definately perceive that they have been born out of slave patrols. And now with the Supreme Courtroom saying this, it is virtually like you may simply go seize them up. That’s what they’re saying. And that could be a downside. All of us ought to have an issue with that, however when you do not wish to educate American historical past that features black historical past, then you definately lose out on the advantage of understanding that we’ve been down this highway earlier than. And it was not good, and we mounted it as soon as, and it’s a disgrace that we’re relitigating this, and we’ll have to repair it once more.
VELSHI: Jasmine Crockett, at all times completely satisfied to have you ever on the present. Thanks for becoming a member of us.
