Creating a Life Force Energy Home & Reducing EMFs With Focused Life Force Energy (FLFE)

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Katie: Hiya, and welcome to “The Wellness Mama Podcast.” I’m Katie from wellnessmama.com and wellnesse.com. That’s wellness with an E on the top. And this matter is gonna be in all probability a brand new one for some folks listening. And I’ll admit there are components of it I’m nonetheless studying and don’t totally perceive but. However we speak about creating and curating life power power, additionally about issues like decreasing EMFs and the way that ties in as effectively. And I’m right here with the founders of FLFE, which is Targeted Life Pressure Vitality. And we speak about issues like excessive consciousness fields, harmonizing with versus mitigating EMFs and what that appears like, how they examined this know-how and the scientific backing for it, and an entire lot of different instructions.

I’m right here with two folks, Jeff and Clayten. Clayten has over 25 years of expertise on this discipline, and he’s the coed of Dr. David Hawkins in kinesiology. And he has an entire set of protocols associated to this. We get in-depth then I clarify extra what it’s. I do know it sounds a little bit esoteric proper now. However he has lots of work within the exploration of consciousness and non-linear therapeutic applied sciences, together with the event of this program, FLFE with Jeff Stegman, who has centered on making a excessive consciousness tradition in his companies, and in companies round and associated to this know-how. So like I stated, we get into the specifics. They clarify higher than I may what that is and the way it works. However usually, it’s about making a discipline inside your private home that’s calming and loving, and in addition has a measurable impact they’re discovering in analysis in harmonizing EMFs. So I’ll allow them to clarify it from right here. With out additional ado, let’s be a part of Jeff and Clayten. Clayten and Jeff, welcome. Thanks a lot for being right here at present.

Jeff: Glad to be with you, Katie.

Clayten: Good to see you, Katie.

Katie: I’m excited for this dialog. And we’re gonna get to go deep on one explicit matter that I believe is perhaps considerably new for the viewers after which lots of completely different subtopics under that.

However earlier than we bounce into that, I’d love to simply let the viewers hear a little bit background about each of you and the way you bought into this space of analysis. I’ve notes that, Jeff, you’re changing into a farmer to use a number of the issues we’re going to speak about at present. And that Clayten was a business fisherman in earlier life. So I’d love to simply hear possibly a number of the story of what introduced you each to this work.

Jeff: I may begin. Yeah, it appears from an early childhood, I really like science fiction. I really like getting misplaced and like the opportunity of a a lot larger world than we noticed round us. And even in late grade faculty, early highschool, I did sensory deprivation experiments with myself and was searching for methods to depart my physique. However in the meantime, each ft have been on the bottom, have been on the bottom. I constructed a household enterprise with my brother, very long-term workers, and constructing a acutely aware tradition of form of, you recognize, heart-centered enterprise.

And that’s how I met Clayten. He was really teaching in enterprise as a non secular path. And so I started to work with him. I used to be an early meditator, too. I began… My mom, she’s very sensible. I used to be smoking pot on the time in highschool, or really early eighth grade, so she launched me to transcendental meditation. And the medicine ended. And I’ve meditated along with her, you recognize, for the subsequent…doing transcendental meditation via highschool.

So simply early on, I’ve actually been involved in form of what’s behind, you recognize, what’s beneath the hood of life. And my time with Clayten, when he was teaching me, was digging beneath that hood. It’s like, he used kinesiology or muscle testing to check my stage of consciousness in several areas of my life. And he would discover these hidden gems that I assumed I hid so effectively. Actually, generally, they have been so effectively hidden, they have been unconscious.

However discovering these low consciousness areas in my life then allowed me to consciously work and lift these areas up and expertise extra freedom and pleasure, you recognize, and love in these areas of my life. That was form of the trail that took us to the FLFE know-how that we found, which is a consciousness know-how that prompts excessive consciousness fields. And I can hand it off to you, Clayten. You found it then introduced me in.

Clayten: Yeah, effectively, as Katie stated, I used to be a business fisherman at one level in my life. And so, it does connect with my upbringing the place I discovered peace in nature. That was the place that I may all the time go. And lots of that I discovered via fishing. I spent lots of time strolling alongside the edges of rivers, and I believe in all probability the mixture of train and getting the physique drained sufficient in order that the chatter of the thoughts is lowered. And being within the presence of fantastic thing about nature, that’s the place I discovered lots of my peace as a younger man.

And there have been some choices after I was in highschool. One in every of them was touring and seeing a little bit of the world earlier than I decided as to what I needed to do on the earth. And so, I did journey for some time. And I used to be a kind of folks that… Now, it’s known as van life, again then it was a truck and camper. So, I like, “Oh, you recognize, I need to have a spot to sleep. I don’t need to sleep in a tent.” So I purchased an previous truck and an previous camper and an previous… I believe they name them beaters. I don’t know what they name beaters down the place you reside, however they name them beaters up right here.

So I drove round Canada for a couple of yr and, you recognize, I did form of labor-type jobs. So fishing was certainly one of them. I labored within the oil discipline, you recognize. I did labor jobs. I used to be a younger man with not lots of schooling and coaching, in order that’s the work that was out there to me.

And I received concerned in a philosophical group fairly, fairly deeply. I used to be actually involved in attempting to make sense of some issues in my life and on the earth. And so, I figured I wanted to get actually good at one explicit approach of taking a look at life. And so I select a philosophy and I received deeply concerned in that. And that led me into schooling.

I spent about 11 years from about ’84 to ’95 within the schooling discipline. I used to be a business fisherman for some time. And I form of went again to that a part of my life as a result of I actually loved it. However my love for schooling and instructing and studying was larger. In order that led me into particular person teaching again in 1995, which is historical within the teaching world.

And since I’d spent 11 years on this Japanese-based philosophy, earlier than that in working in personal colleges, I selected a specialty of working with enterprise leaders who thought of enterprise their non secular path. And I selected that as a result of, on the earth, plainly enterprise has the facility proper now for good or for dangerous, proper? Prior to now, it might need been the humanities or, you recognize, sure time in our historical past, it was a faith or spiritual establishments.

So I figured I may do essentially the most good on the earth with the least quantity of effort. I imply, it’s only one particular person. Not that I didn’t need to make an effort, however you form of search for that candy spot the place you are able to do essentially the most good along with your effort. And for me, it was enterprise leaders who thought of their enterprise as their non secular path.

Jeff and I are gearheads. So we prefer to tinker with issues and machines. And I labored at a gasoline station like 4 years, half time, after I was in highschool. I took the tutorial half of highschool, however I additionally took store. I took auto store and machine store and electronics and blueprint studying. So it’s fairly oriented in the direction of that. My dad was a tradesman printer and so our household was form of technical that approach.

And so, ultimately, you recognize, and a mixture of exploring kinesiology and being involved in form of machines and schooling, I got here throughout this inventor who was a part of a bunch of inventors who…they have been attempting to create a free power system for humanity. They usually didn’t do this. However they form of stumbled upon a technique to focus lifeforce power on objects.

Little did I do know that was the start of the FLFE, you recognize, journey. Yeah, this man was simply form of energizing these crystals and placing them round his home. And his home was like superb. And it’s such a highly-charged surroundings. So I received to know this gentleman, and we labored collectively for a number of years after which I launched Jeff to him. And yeah, it’s a part of the journey.

Katie: I very a lot resonate along with your story in saying, like, “The place can my effort take advantage of distinction and supply essentially the most love?” And for me, I’m in deep gratitude daily that my work is with different girls and mothers. As a result of, for me, I believe that’s a part of my life goal is that we assist mothers. We assist not simply mothers, however households and the tradition as an entire. And in order that’s why I used to be excited to get to have this dialog with you guys.

And also you talked about excessive consciousness fields, which I’m guessing is a brand new time period, probably, for lots of people listening. So I’d love to start out very primary and broad and have you ever guys clarify that idea and possibly give some examples to assist folks form of perceive and anchor what which means.

Jeff: Mm hmm. We consider that consciousness is in every single place. That it’s throughout us. And we observe Dr. David Hawkins’ work. One in every of his books is “Energy vs. Pressure.” And he outlined consciousness fields and ranges of consciousness. And I’d say that we expertise this daily. That everybody experiences it daily.

So for those who’re strolling around the globe, and also you go into someplace that’s very elevated, it’s a excessive consciousness space. In order that might be, you recognize, a synagogue or church or cathedral, significantly a number of the cathedrals in Europe, very excessive as a result of they have been designed that approach with the structure and the form of the options of the earth the place they constructed the cathedrals.

So whenever you stroll into a spot like that, I skilled it in my physique, it’s like an power, like nearly an pleasure and a calmness. Like my thoughts begins to essentially calm down. And I’ve observed that in cathedrals, after I was touring Europe, the place I’d stroll within the door, I’d really feel just like the nearer I received to the entrance of the…to the nave, the entrance of the church, the stronger it received, and clean or my thoughts went. And what that what that impact is strolling right into a excessive consciousness discipline that’s getting increased and better, the nearer you get to the place the place the priesthood would do his factor.

In low consciousness fields, you could possibly expertise in an previous jail, a battleground. Like, for those who’ve ever been to a kind of locations, there’s this form of a low-energy feeling like a heaviness, possibly even feelings or ideas may come up. And we consider that thought kinds and feelings might be current traditionally in a location like that, or each location that human beings are such sturdy broadcasters of our power that it may be held in a crystalline construction of the constructing supplies or the bottom or drywall even.

So these are some examples strolling round. And it’s form of that feeling folks speak about, like, “I don’t just like the power of this place.” or, “This feels actually good.” Nicely, it’s a sense in our our bodies. And we consider our our bodies are very delicate devices to this as a result of it’s a part of our survival. Such as you stroll into a spot that doesn’t really feel good, you get on edge, you recognize, you’re like trying over your shoulder, like, what’s happening right here? And that, you recognize, helps us to cope with what is perhaps coming. So we consider these fields are in every single place. And what the FLFE know-how does is to activate a excessive consciousness discipline just like the cathedral really feel.

Katie: Clayten, do you will have any follow-up to that earlier than I ask add-on query?

Clayten: , I’ve some sensible examples of this. And possibly one that will not be distinctive to girls, however I believe they’ll respect. A sensible instance of a excessive consciousness discipline could be your pondering… There’s an plain bond, in my expertise, and within the expertise of each mom I’ve ever talked to, between a mom and her youngster. It’s not that males don’t have a connection as effectively. Nevertheless it’s only a completely different connection.

So whenever you’re pondering of any individual, and also you’re questioning how they’re doing, and also you’re sending them a optimistic thought, after which they name you, they stated, “I used to be simply interested by you,” proper? I’ve by no means talked to a mom who doesn’t find out about that. So that will be an instance of a excessive consciousness discipline.

Now, I imply, that might flip to fret. As a substitute of like consciousness, it may flip to fret and concern. However I’d say that the FLFE know-how has some parallels to the capability that people must create a connection between love and one other particular person or one other house.

And I don’t know why I’m simply having this thought to let you know the story. So I’ve some pals on Salt Spring Island in Canada. I used to reside in Vancouver. I’m up in Nelson now. That’s the place the top workplace of the corporate is.

And I went over to Salt Spring Island to go to these folks. And this woman, she was…there was a bunch of birthing. There was a birthing class there. I don’t know in the event that they known as them doulas or it was simply girls who assist infants get born. There’s a reputation for it, it’s going to come to me. Midwives.

So this woman was on this group. And it simply so occurred that morning, one of many mornings I used to be there, there was a beginning that occurred. She’d been up many of the evening, and this child had been born. And he or she got here again to the home for a minute as a result of she needed to get one thing and she or he went to return.

And the power that she got here in with was, it was extraordinary. And it’s like, I stated, “What simply occurred? You’re simply glowing.” She stated, “Nicely, this child simply received born.” And he or she stated, “It’s like a miracle.” , it’s an power of like miraculous magnificence and love. And I used to be similar to, to today, I similar to, I can simply take into consideration that and I can really feel it.

And he or she stated, “, I’m simply pondering of getting one other youngster. It’s such a wonderful factor to carry into the world.” And for some purpose, I’m getting… I’ve by no means informed that story to very many individuals, however I believe, for you, Katie, that simply feels so related as a result of lots of the folks you serve are moms.

And if a mom has skilled that, she’s skilled a rare power discipline. As a result of I believe, when a baby will get born, one thing occurs that’s superb. And I haven’t seen a beginning. And I haven’t actually been shut to at least one. However that’s the closest I’ve ever been possibly inside quarter-hour, half an hour.

So, FLFE can’t create that kind of surroundings, however it does create like a sanctuary, a sacred, like a holy place form of surroundings in its personal approach. It relies upon, you recognize. Folks have lots of affect on it. We simply can’t make the surroundings be a sure approach. However we will definitely have it’s a sort of, you recognize, a consciousness stage that’s unconditionally loving. After which it’s as much as everyone else so as to add to what they will and what they need from there.

Katie: I really like that you simply used that for example. I’m really a doula and have began supply coaching. Most likely, the six most impactful moments of my life are the six moments that my kids have been born. And I believe you’re precisely spot on. And I’ve now had the consideration of being at many births as effectively, and holding house for these girls. And there’s a very particular shift in that room, particularly like main as much as and round that second of beginning.

And I keep in mind very clearly, when my first youngster was born, that simply overwhelming feeling of affection and bliss and peace and like that connection that was instant to him. And like having that realization of, “Wow. I really like folks in my life. However I’ve by no means skilled this stage of affection till this second.”

And it was neat as a result of that then, I really feel like, rippled out to different relationships in my life. Prefer it upgraded my capability to like everybody, not simply my child. And so after we speak about consciousness, I believe you’re proper. Mothers can resonate with that innate feeling that possibly you possibly can’t tangibly put into phrases so simply, however you recognize that feeling on the subject of your kids.

I do really feel like in all probability everybody has heard of the time period consciousness by now. It’s simply tossed round quite a bit. I believe generally possibly it will get misused or tied into lots of different issues. However let’s go a little bit deeper on the thought of consciousness You talked about Dr. Hawkins. Sort of stroll us via how that is measured or possibly simply give us some tangible metrics. As a result of I believe it could possibly really feel like an summary idea to lots of people. So I’d like to form of like anchor that in and make it as tangible as doable earlier than we bounce into extra specifics.

Jeff: I may begin and hand it off to you, Clayten. Yeah, these examples, you recognize, that second of a child being born, which I’ve skilled twice with my very own kids. And I used to be simply getting goosebumps whereas we have been speaking about it.

So, you recognize, there’s a consciousness discipline there that will get activated. After which we will take into consideration that and entry it ourselves later, such as you stated. And as we stated, there’s excessive fields just like the cathedrals. There’s decrease locations, like, you recognize, the place there’s been grief or torture, you recognize, tragedy of some sort. Actually, in Japan, if somebody commits suicide in an residence, folks gained’t lease it as a result of there’s extra more likely to be one other suicide. In order that’s a consciousness discipline there.

So Dr. David Hawkins created the Map of Consciousness that goes from one, you recognize, there’s all the time some consciousness to infinity. So you could possibly say the divinity is infinity. And within the human realm, it’s to 1000. And so forth that scale, which is logarithmic, every level upward is 10 occasions extra power current within the discipline. So down under, 200 on that map, you recognize, there’s lethargy and melancholy and a number of the decrease power, decrease consciousness discipline. So like, for those who’re round any individual that’s depressed, that heavy feeling, that’s a low consciousness discipline. After which, as you progress over 200, you’re shifting into hope and into the love zone at 500. And I’ll allow you to take it from there, Clayten, you’ve received a lot expertise on this.

Clayten: We do lots of kinesiology testing, Katie, within the firm. And so, unconditional love begins round 540. And round 600, you begin to get into peace, 700 on the Hawkins map is enlightenment. And from 700 to 1000 are form of the realms of the mystic enlightened beings who lived on the planet, the Buddhas, the Krishnas, the Jesus, these kinds of beings.

In the event you’re taking a look at a number of the feelings under 200, sometimes, the dimensions of consciousness begins at 20 at disgrace, then 50 is form of apathy, 100 is concern, 150 is anger, 190 is form of extreme delight. And it’s simply form of that 200 mark is the place issues turn into optimistic.

So we’ve got braveness at 200, 250 is impartial, 300 is willingness. Yeah, 300-350 is willingness, like nearer to 350. Then 400 is purpose, whenever you get into logic and the professions like accounting, you recognize, skilled requirements, authorized occupation. And 500 is love.

And so, the FLFE surroundings, we assure it, will probably be at… So we’ve got a consciousness slider the place you possibly can really slide the extent of consciousness and transfer it up and down in your property. It’s going to by no means take power away. However it’s going to add it as much as that stage to make sure it’s at that stage or extra. And you’ll transfer it from 400 to 570.

So the default for FLFE is 550. And that’s the space of unconditional love, so it’s 550 out of 1000. We assure that 98% of the time, or no matter stage you set it at, 98% of the time over a 24-hour interval. As a result of issues do occur in a home or in any surroundings the place there’s a disruption for a little bit bit.

And also you need to positively affect the surroundings, however you don’t need to take folks’s management away. I imply, you’re a sovereign particular person. It’s not anyone’s place to regulate it. However we do add lots of like to it. After which, from there, it’s what folks make of it.

We even have issues like boosts. You’ll be able to enhance the consciousness for half an hour as much as 600. So these issues like… As a result of we’ve got a management panel, you go in, and also you get to be your personal consciousness experimenter, or I assume… Will we name it that, Jeff? Will we name it that? Yeah, that’s kinda the identify for it, however you get to experiment with ranges of consciousness in your personal approach of referring to it.

Katie: I consider that as I typically discuss concerning the vitamin and bodily well being facet. And I say typically to folks, “You might be your personal major healthcare supplier and your personal well being researcher. And you’ll work with superb practitioners and companions in that. However on the finish of the day, that experimentation and that accountability resides in every of us individually, and nobody else can take over that accountability for us.” And so I really feel like that is making use of that very same thought to this different realm that possibly folks haven’t thought of.

And also you talked about kinesiology, and I’ll admit that is an space I haven’t completed a ton of analysis on it, and I do know I like have it previously no less than been skeptical about, and I’m attempting to grasp higher. So I’d love so that you can clarify kinesiology and the way that course of works a little bit bit for those who don’t thoughts.

Jeff: So form of going again to the sensitivity that all of us have, so whenever you stroll into that room, and it doesn’t really feel proper or the power feels good. So we consider our our bodies are devices, sturdy devices, for measuring consciousness round us, these consciousness fields.

And kinesiology is a muscle testing. So this has, you recognize, been pioneered by numerous folks. And Dr. Hawkins took it to a different stage the place it’s the power of the muscle within the presence of reality. So the idea is that we’re linked in our core to all that’s, whether or not it’s dimensional or it’s divine, nonetheless you consider it. We’re linked to all that’s. And that presence of reality is strengthening to the system. And the presence of falsehood is weakening. So it’s the precept of the power of the muscle, you recognize, within the presence of a press release.

So the assertion, you recognize, it’s both true or it’s not true. And there could also be gradation. So we measure on a scale the place we might say, you recognize, on a scale of 1 to 1000, Dr. David Hawkins’ Map of Consciousness, stage of consciousness of this property over the earlier 24 hours calibrates at, you recognize, sturdy 200 or extra, sturdy 400 or extra, sturdy 500 or extra, weak 600 or extra. After which again up, you recognize, 520 or extra sturdy, 530 or extra, 540 or extra sturdy, 550 weak. It’s between 540 and 550.

So, we’ve got a group of folks that do that testing. And what we do is we check individually, after which, you recognize, examine. So we’re doing the testing of the properties, after which Clayten and I’ve completed hundreds of thousands of those sorts of checks on the event of FLFE. And yeah, it’s a bit on the market.

However you see it in allergists. I went to an allergist the place he had a cuff on me that measured the stress of his finger in order that it wouldn’t…you recognize, he wasn’t urgent more durable on my arm to maintain it, you recognize, make it go down. After which, he would hand me these jars of supplies, and I’d put it near my chest, and I’d be sturdy, sturdy, till I received a jar that I used to be allergic to, after which it might be weak. In order that was an fascinating form of a approach of measuring the power the that you simply’re placing on the arm. And if in case you have one other query or we will move it on to Clayten.

Clayten: One other sensible instance of kinesiology that’s utilized in day-to-day life is allergists but additionally nutritionists. In the event you go to a nutritionist, they’ll maintain dietary supplements in entrance of you, they usually’ll scale them as to how good they’re.

And I’ve been going to chiropractors for, I don’t know, 20-something years. And though my favourite ones and those that I preserve going again to are those that do kinesiology. You’re on the desk. They do a few commonplace changes. After which, you recognize, sometimes, if I’m mendacity there, they’ll put my arm up, they usually’ll push it down and see how sturdy it’s. And if it’s weak, then they’ll do a few changes, after which it’s stronger, proper? They usually’ll go to the opposite arm or they’ll go to the leg. And, you recognize, that’s a type of kinesiology.

I don’t know a lot about chiropractic, however I used to be informed there’s seven colleges of chiropractic, and certainly one of them is kinesiology centered. And that’s the way it appears to be like like in a chiropractor’s workplace, the place they’ll assess your physique. They make an adjustment. They check the power of the muscle. And that’s how they know the adjustment is finished. And so it’s used quite a bit on the earth. It’s simply the consciousness side of it’s, it’s form of distinctive. Nicely, it’s an rising discipline. I wouldn’t say it’s distinctive, it’s rising.

Katie: Yeah, and I believe I’ve solely ever actually had publicity to it within the chiropractic context. And I’m glad I’ve you guys right here to ask this as a result of I’ve been so genuinely inquisitive about this for a very long time. And form of the concept that’s been popularized not too long ago of the thought of Biology of Perception, and if we consider one thing, that may affect.

And so I’ve all the time puzzled, on the subject of kinesiology and muscle testing, does bias on the a part of both the particular person being examined, or the tester come into play in any respect? I do know you stated it’s centered in fact and true statements. I’ve simply been very inquisitive about that. Like if somebody believes one thing is sweet for them, would the physique reply extra strongly? Or, if the tester believes one thing is sweet for them, does that impression it in any respect?

Clayten: One of many methods you’ll cope with that’s you’ll do what we name blind testing. Let’s say that I used to be the calibrator. I used to be making the assertion. You have been the topic, Katie, I’ll be pushing your arm down. And Jeff was the auditor. Proper? In order that’s how we’ll sometimes be taught kinesiology collectively. So you will have a calibrator, a topic, and an auditor.

So on this case, the auditor wouldn’t have a lot of a job. However what I’d do is I’d make the optimistic declarative assertion solely in my thoughts. You wouldn’t know what I’m saying. In order that’s one technique to handle bias. And one other approach is to essentially have your declarative statements be pristine of their accuracy. In the event you get adequate at this, you possibly can measure the extent of consciousness of your statements.

And, you recognize, over time, there are methods to… , after we do our property testing, there’s normally no less than three of us. So there’s methods of searching for statistical validation via imply averages of teams. There’s methods to handle it. And to say that bias doesn’t matter, I don’t assume could be a good assertion. You simply must be taught to handle bias.

Like if there’s a subject, you possibly can check your stage of consciousness of reality on that matter, proper? After which you possibly can check the extent of acutely aware…of your intent in the direction of an end result. So there’s a bunch of issues you are able to do to extend the percentages of you getting good knowledge within the surroundings, together with testing unknown controls, you recognize, earlier than you go in.

So it’s a occupation. Lots of people simply assume, “Oh, I may simply decide up a e book and be taught it and a half an hour.” It’s like, effectively, possibly you possibly can, however if you wish to get good at it, my sense is it takes a few years. That’s what your expertise is, Jeff, like.

Jeff: Yeah, I believe the bias, it’s an necessary query. And a few of these biases are unconscious. And that’s why we’ve got teams, you recognize, as a result of… and we’ll be engaged on one thing and two of us get one reply, one particular person will get one other, “All proper, let’s cease. Let’s…” , might be that one particular person has turn into dehydrated as a result of the physique must be in actually fine condition, so having hydration at a sure stage. If it will get low sufficient…I don’t know for those who’ve ever skilled that we get cranky, whenever you get, you’re thirsty. That’s like, that’s a change. So that you’ve gone adverse. So that you really get the other lead to kinesiology when that occurs.

Yeah, it’s an fascinating topic. And we’ve been deep in it for 10 years or so, and Clayten for much longer earlier than that, however he taught me the way to do it. After which we’ve got a group of individuals within the enterprise that help us.

And it’s actually an fascinating instrument. I imply, you possibly can actually uncover issues, the reality of one thing. And on the subject of analysis within the enterprise… So we work with Dr. Gary Schwartz on our analysis group. He’s written numerous books within the College of Arizona. And he’s been an excellent bridge between science and a few of these new power therapeutic methods. He’s completed fairly a little bit of analysis with biophoton cameras and Reiki and other forms of methods. And he’s actually eager to do a kinesiology examine with us this yr. So we’re probably to do this this yr.

Katie: It does really feel like we’re in a spot the place we’re beginning to see that merge of know-how and science, understanding issues which have actually form of an age previous and lots of different practices. And it’s actually fascinating to me to get to look at that development occur. And I may go, in all probability ask a ton extra questions on kinesiology.

However I need to ensure we really get again to this know-how, as a result of I believe you defined actually clearly that feeling. And I’m certain folks can consider occasions of their lives. Like, I’ve additionally walked into cathedrals and felt that shift and even locations in nature, the place I felt, shift, or felt it when my kids have been born. But additionally, we will’t, sadly, typically, all of us reside in these locations the place always simply have infants to get to expertise that. So I’d love to speak about the way you guys are merging the know-how with this consciousness form of age-old science that has all the time existed to create this, and the way we will all create these increased consciousness fields in our personal lives.

Clayten: Nicely, we form of stumbled upon a know-how that existed. The intent, as I stated, was to create a free power system for humanity. And this gentleman’s intent was to…he was a male, proper, instrument and die maker, electrician. He was an older German man who was extremely succesful when it comes to technical abilities. And the way in which he associated to divinity was actually via making stuff. , that’s simply how we did it. And a few persons are farmers or household man or household girls or, no matter, businesspeople. And his approach was to make stuff. I believe it’s necessary to do not forget that intent issues quite a bit. And divinity expresses via every part. It expresses via nature. It’s kinda simpler to search out, for me, there. Some folks categorical this via know-how.

And this know-how was born out of intent to serve. And he spent lots of years at it, and I helped him refine it fairly a bit, quite a bit. After which we took it to an entire different stage. So there may be an rising group of applied sciences which might be in a position to assist humanity, similar to the inner combustion engine supported humanity. And I’m simply speaking from an actual broad spectrum right here. Jeff, I’ll hand it over to you in a minute.

I imply, we’re speaking on computer systems which have fiber optics, you recognize, or cables going into the bottom, or the radio transmissions going to the air. And we’re in a position to be of service to your viewers, Katie, and also you’re in a position to assist, you recognize, the ladies in your life that you simply need to join with. So, you recognize, we’re fairly oriented in the direction of service and divinity and a better energy and excessive consciousness fields. In order that’s the way in which that we see the world. And that’s the way in which that we body it.

And there’s all kinds of applied sciences on the market. We simply purchased a Skinner system, which is a makes use of a optimistic electrical stimulus to assist strengthen, I assume, the construction of the physique the place it’s used. I’ve simply been stepping into Jerry Tennant’s work a little bit bit extra. He talks concerning the significance of voltage within the physique, and the way to create your optimistic voltage. So there’s numerous rising applied sciences on the market that may assist us to be more healthy. And, you recognize, we’re certainly one of them.

Jeff: So it truly is similar to human consciousness and that mechanism of pondering of somebody after which, you recognize, feeling love and sending them love. What we consider occurs is there’s a discipline activated round the person who’s full of affection. And that’s what they really feel, they usually profit from that. And, you recognize, distant prayer, a number of the analysis on simply distant prayer and Reiki and different energetic drugs, at a distance is similar mechanism.

There’s a system. There’s a bodily FLFE system that’s, you could possibly say, a quantum power system, a consciousness system. So, it has, initially, the unique inventor was working with comparable know-how to Nikola Tesla. Initially, it was excessive velocity alternating present working via coils and plates. And it was creating an lively discipline via that oscillation.

And it’s developed since then to not want the electrical energy in that approach. However primarily ideas, similar to us figuring out somebody, you recognize, we consider sister or brother, the FLFE system makes use of distinctive identifier. So it is perhaps a telephone quantity, which identifies a mobile system. It is perhaps an tackle that identifies a property. It is perhaps coordinates, you recognize, and the house across the coordinates. And so with that identification, then there’s a quantum connection and the sphere’s activated at that location. So similar to human consciousness, our system works.

And so we’re placing into this method written directions that establish that location, that has the distinctive identifier in it. And, you recognize, that’s activating the sphere. We’ve completed numerous experiments alongside the way in which to say, “How can we quantify this?” , how will you see this? It’s so esoteric sounding, proper?

Nicely, what we’ve completed is these blinded experiments now with vegetation rising. And in order that activation of the sphere in an surroundings, vegetation are rising a lot quicker. , we noticed in very early preliminary experiments, 29% enhance in progress. And we’re seeing the same form of 14% to 29% enhance in yield in a big farm examine that we did this previous yr, the place we had farmers doing natural grains, historical grains, and a part of fields on FLFE, and a part of it wasn’t. So we had controls. They usually have been measuring the bushels per acre with their subtle farm gear. And there was like 14% to twenty-eight% enhance in yield.

I imply, in order that was, the farmer didn’t know which, you recognize, acres the place which. And that was a follow-on to a few of these different plant experiments the place life is benefiting. You’ll be able to see it within the plant progress. And that got here out of the tales of FLFE prospects. So, FLFE is a subscription service. So, I assume, we must always say that the place folks…it’s $35, for the best finish. After which for households, we’ve got some lower cost ranges for kids’s telephones and issues like that, right down to $10 or $12 a month.

However that activation within the discipline, folks have been seeing their vegetation rising, they usually have been seeing their yards trying greener, and their shrubs trying greener in comparison with the place down the road. And that’s what led us to those, you recognize, experiments. And that’s form of the pathway for us is, we heard first from the purchasers and from our personal experiences within the discipline. After which we’ve taken it into analysis. And we’ve completed some work with IONS, the Institute of Noetic Sciences. They’ve completed experiments on the FLFE surroundings. After which Dr. Gary Schwartz and our analysis group are engaged on numerous different experiments.

Clayten: Nicely, there’s a analysis tab on our web site the place you possibly can go in and take a look at the analysis that we did with the Institute of Noetic Sciences and with a gasoline discharge visualization digicam in an surroundings which confirmed much less chaos within the surroundings, extra concord. Now we have six or seven experiments up there. Anyway, we had one the place folks had, you recognize, these issues that they put in your physique, they usually measure your brainwaves.

Jeff: EEG.

Clayten: EEG, yeah. I used to be gonna say EKG, however it was EEG. So there was a rise in sure brainwaves which might be related to, you recognize, peace and concord, govt features as effectively. So there’s extra alpha waves than the earlier one. So there’s fairly a little bit of analysis that we even have completed. So it’s not simply us saying one thing with out having proof to again it up.

Jeff: And the mind analysis at IONS actually got here out of fogeys speaking about adjustments of their kids, significantly round homework and college efficiency. So when there’s extra life-force power in an area, so we talked about going right into a cathedral and there’s that actually enlivened feeling. When there’s extra life-force power out there, it comes into the physique and, you recognize, folks that apply yoga may know it’s prana. In Chinese language drugs, it’s Qi. And that movement of Qi via the physique is absolutely necessary for our well being.

When there’s extra Qi, prana, lifeforce power, they’re all the identical factor. Within the surroundings, our physique is pulling that in and utilizing it, together with for cognition. And when there’s components of the mind which might be starved for power as a result of they’re working actually exhausting, certainly one of our FLFE, what we name packages, our ideas within the discipline, is for extra power to go to the areas the place there’s the least power out there. And in order that has proven up in folks simply feeling like they’ve extra power via the day and efficiency.

At IONS – and this was a small examine, and we have to observe it up with a bigger examine, that’s the form of course of we’re on is you do a preliminary examine – there was a rise in cognitive perform with a examine group who have been in an FLFE surroundings in comparison with folks that weren’t or in comparison with being not in an FLFE surroundings prior. In order that lifeforce power out there to the physique is among the common rules that we speak about. A number of yogis and folks in several Japanese philosophies wish to focus prana via chanting and breath management, you recognize, particular respiration practices. Feng Shui is designed to pay attention extra power in an area. After which, we’re a know-how so as to add much more power.

Katie: I’ll ensure I, you recognize, have that analysis tab you talked about. I’ll guarantee that’s linked within the present notes for everyone listening, that’s wellnessmama.fm, you guys can discover all of that. And I need to ensure we speak about EMFs too. So I’m gonna put that on the within the car parking zone to come back again to in a minute.

However first, I’d love to grasp, I discover it so fascinating, this concept of merging the know-how with these fields of consciousness. And so, I do know it’s additionally a little bit bit difficult. However are you able to clarify a little bit bit extra tangibly for individuals who could have hassle greedy, together with me, on how that is then, like, centered? Like, the place’s it coming from? How’s it created? After which how can we focus it on someplace that’s distant? As a result of that is tremendous fascinating.

Clayten: Nicely, we’ve got a machine. And as Jeff stated, it has all these coils and stacks. It pulls power from what some folks name the ether. It simply pulls power from the surroundings. And it focuses it and ultimately concentrates it in an space the place there’s a fairly a excessive consciousness discipline. After which from there, it goes out these stacks. We name them output stacks. So, enter stacks and output stacks. After which the underside of the output stack, there’s an space, it was about this large. Katie, it was like three inches by 5 inches, one thing like that. After we’re experimenting, we might put three by 5 playing cards in there. And we make these little requests to divinity.

, “Expensive divinity, please, assist this particular person with, you recognize, they’ve received an issue with their liver. They received actually dangerous psoriasis, please assist them with their psoriasis.” And we put that within the machine. And you set the particular person’s image in as a result of they needed to come into this adventurous place. They heard about them. And they’d really feel a optimistic profit, and possibly a few of their psoriasis went away.

So then we, you recognize, did extra analysis on well being and possibly found that, “Nicely, in case your liver is extra energized, then it helps with the psoriasis.” So we will make these extra subtle requests over time. And sooner or later, this gentleman was, effectively, he was taking these crystals and charging them up and placing them round his home. And that’s when Jeff came visiting to the house. It was a rare house. And he would cost up these crystals. And so sooner or later he had this piece of a damaged tabletop, it’s a granite counter. And he put it on this house and was charging it up.

And he pulled it out, and the telephone rang, and it was a good friend, and he was speaking to his good friend, and he was on the telephone for 10 or quarter-hour, and he had this piece of marble in his hand. And when he hung the telephone up, he realized that the arthritis in his hand was gone, couldn’t really feel any extra ache. And it was as a result of he was holding on to this piece of crystal with this super-high power round it. And so, he put it in his different hand and went away. After which, you recognize, after about two weeks, he observed that the cost went out of the crystal. However within the meantime, he’s been sending crystals to his pals, to folks all around the world, they usually have been holding it and their arthritic ache would go away.

So we don’t make well being claims. However what he did was he put an image of…he put the folks within the machine, after which folks would ship it again. Or he would ship them a brand new one. It was costing like some huge cash in courier charges, which is form of ridiculous, proper? As a result of for those who ship it by mail, they usually solely lasted two weeks, we’re gonna have per week when it received to ship in a single day, and it might price some huge cash.

So then we found out that we may take an image of the crystal, and if it was a excessive sufficient decision, you could possibly put that within the machine, and it might cost a crystal from the opposite facet of the planet. So he had all these footage of all these crystals within the machine and folks have been holding on that and their arthritis was going away. And in order that’s the way it works, Katie. It was primarily based upon the precept, as Jeff stated earlier, of the distinctive identifier. So that you needed to have an image of the crystal.

What we ultimately found out is we may put… So we made this output, this excessive consciousness discipline on the backside of the output stack larger and greater and greater. So it’s like three ft tall. We’re placing all these addresses in it, you recognize, and we made our personal machine and taking them out. It was like such a nuisance. Then sooner or later, we figured that we may put directions in there to inform the know-how to go to the database and take the instruction from the database and create that very same discipline anyplace on the earth. In order that was the evolution of it.

So now we’ve got this database, and we make these requests to divinity as Jeff stated. Like, “, please do that. Please do this. Please do that.” All these good issues you possibly can think about that you’d ask for somebody that you simply cared about. That’s what we do. We requested for all these items to occur. And, you recognize, we will’t actually management what occurs. We do have lots of affect over the extent of consciousness on the surroundings. After which we make all these requests. After which, plainly if the particular person has alignment with these request, they occur faster. And if the particular person is absolutely immune to the optimistic requests, effectively, that’s their very own free will. Proper. So we will’t make you will have the life you need, however it does offer you 10 occasions extra power with each enhance in your stage of consciousness.

So, let’s say, proper now, the typical dwelling in America is about 250 out of 1000 on the Hawkins’ map. Now, again in 2019, it in all probability would have been, I do know, 350 or 380, like that’s the typical, proper? So that you’re going up, maybe two or 300 factors on the Hawkins’ Map of Consciousness in a house. And each a kind of factors is 10 occasions extra power. So it’s a really refined power. However you will have that rather more power to deal with the belongings you need and create the life that you simply’re intending. In order that’s form of the way it works.

Katie: Jeff, did you will have any follow-up, or can I transfer into the EMF angle?

Jeff: No, I believe that’s nice to maneuver into that as a result of it pertains to the way it works, too.

Katie: Yeah, I figured that may result in some good follow-up. I do know for mothers, lots of mothers, this can be a top-of-mind matter as a result of, clearly, we’ve got far more of those EMFs in our life than we did a pair a long time in the past and definitely than we did a pair 100 years in the past. And now with 5G, that’s a giant matter for lots of mothers and kinda the fixed publicity to those completely different EMFs.

So I’d love to listen to, I do know you guys have completed analysis on this and that there’s a approach that this really may also help with this EMF equation, however are you able to stroll us via and clarify what’s happening in that scenario?

Jeff: Sure. In order we talked about, we’re testing properties for his or her stage of consciousness to achieve our promised stage. Each day, new properties are available on. Each week, on Saturday, all of the properties on the system. And we observed, we have been getting properties that weren’t on the stage. They have been 10 factors, 20 factors decrease. And so we might discover a property via utilizing kinesiology. We’d name the shopper. And we’d ask if something’s modified. They usually have been telling us, very constantly, {that a} sensible meter, you recognize, financial institution was put in final week, or a brand new cell tower simply received turned down throughout the road, or we simply received a brand new router. That there was a connection between a decrease consciousness surroundings and a brand new EMF affect.

And so, we realized that, you recognize, that’s an indicator of a decrease well being stage, decrease power stage, and fewer lifeforce power there. That’s form of our perspective on EMFs, that we take a look at power or consciousness reducing EMFs. As a result of some issues, some EMFs, are optimistic, you recognize. The power that our hearts emit after we’re feeling love. And there’s energies from the earth, vibrations from the earth which might be optimistic, from the solar.

So what we did is we researched, you recognize, what’s the most acceptable materials to harmonize EMFs? So you could possibly attempt to block and deflect, take up – for those who’re deflecting, it’s going to any individual else’s home is to harmonize it or to place an overlay on it that has it turn into optimistic. And so shungite is the fabric that we found in our analysis that many individuals have additionally used. And it’s one thing you possibly can experiment with at dwelling. You will get sheets of shungite, and you’ll put it on to a router, or onto a wise meter financial institution.

And what we’ve completed with the FLFE know-how is, so like I stated, it’s a must to again up just a bit. So we consider that there’s an lively essence related to each materials. And you’ll take a look at homeopathy and different signifies that use very, very low quantities of fabric to have an impact the place the physique is signaled by that materials, that we consider that’s the energetic essence of that materials.

And so, you possibly are stepping into multidimensional, maybe, matters. However we have been in a position, we consider, to seize the interdimensional essence of shungite and so as to add it to the service. After which to request it to maneuver into EMF sources which might be reducing consciousness. So we talked about this on webinars. that we have been planning this and the way in which we work is we do it on ourselves, in our environments, then we develop to our workers. After which we develop it to our prospects. However we didn’t…. Folks have been simply speaking about it. They usually stated, “Wow, I’m having a horrible time with EMFs. I need to do this as quickly as doable.”

So we did a beta group with prospects who have been self-selecting. , they have been saying, “I actually am struggling terribly.” And so, we did. And there’s a survey in our EMF part about that. So we did a survey after folks got here on. So we did this small group the place we added the EMF mitigation, we name it, to the surroundings with the energetic essence of shungite. And we additionally raised the extent of consciousness of the EMF-emitting gadgets. And in some unspecified time in the future, they turn into optimistic. So there’s some overlay of optimistic power, we don’t fairly perceive the way it works, that’s on prime of this EMF wave.

However we all the time need to check. So we had this preliminary survey. And folks have been saying that it was the perfect sleep, you recognize, that they have been in a position to sleep the subsequent evening higher than they’ve in simply years. In different folks the place simply, “My ache went away.” “My anxiousness stage dropped.” “My mind fog lessened.” And a few of that took a while to occur. However we consider that in an surroundings the place EMFs are mitigated, that the physique begins to restore the injury of all of the perturbation that’s occurring to us daily. And for me, personally, it’s anxiousness. I really feel like rigidity in my muscle mass after I’m in an surroundings that’s excessive in EMFs. And if I flip off/activate EMF mitigation with FLFE, then I really feel myself enjoyable. And that’s what lots of people reported.

And lots of anxiousness with kids too. We get lots of testimonials the place folks say when the service first got here on, kids grew to become much less anxious, much less irritable, simpler to work with. So we’ve got that analysis, and we’ve got some managed blinded research coming via a researcher on the College of Pennsylvania with, once more, folks which might be EMF delicate. They usually gained’t know whether or not they’re on the service or not. It’s going to be a six-month examine. So we’re within the means of getting that going.

Clayten: We do have some analysis on our web site presently, Katie. We discovered that with the character of the refined power of FLFE that it’s a must to discover the precise gadgets to measure that affect. Some gadgets simply don’t decide it up. So we discovered {that a} gasoline discharge visualization digicam was one thing that might actually measure the affect.

So we did a gasoline discharge visualization digicam examine, which is on our web site. We did it with Melissa Waterman, who was the practitioner who labored with Dr. Joe Dispenza, when he was attempting to measure the affect of consciousness fields. He may not have known as it that. However they might be in an surroundings, and they might do, you recognize, experiments the place they might measure the surroundings with the GDV digicam. After which they would depart the surroundings and focus power on it and see what would occur within the surroundings with a GDV digicam.

So there have been experiments like that. I’m 99% certain he did that. I’m not the one to talk to it, until I’m 100%. However they did experiments like that the place they have been taking a look at what’s the impact of this instructing, and what’s the impact of meditation, and what’s the impact of intent on an surroundings. So we use the identical practitioner, and we’ve got proof of that on our web site, as effectively. So, I imply, we’re speaking about lots of nonlinear esoteric ideas. And these categorical within the 3D bodily world, and we’ve got, you recognize, proof that pertains to proving that. And we’ve got extra coming.

It appears like we was so enthusiastic about our proof, after which we’ve got a lot extra coming. It’s like, “Oh, it’s new proof. That’s actually thrilling.” We had this already good proof, proper? However we’re getting an increasing number of, so we’re trying to have what we name a gold commonplace in analysis and improvement on this space. And it takes time as a result of it’s a comparatively new space of science and there’s not as many assets there are in different areas.

Jeff: So we really feel that subscribers are the perfect or somebody attempting to…is the perfect researcher. So we constructed that into it the place there’s a free trial. There’s no bank card. There’s no automated billing. You really must work to turn into a subscriber after the free trial is over.

However the folks have a management panel, they usually can flip EMF mitigation off they usually can flip it again on, flip it on and off as a lot as they need and see how they really feel. As a result of we actually need folks to attempt it out. And you’ll flip the service on and off, you are able to do the enhance that we stated, to lift the extent. You’ll be able to decrease the extent. In order that to us is the primary stage of analysis, is, what’s the FLFE group feeling, and provides them the instruments that they will use to do this.

And we discover that, primarily, girls, our viewers, you recognize, our group is generally girls. It’s proper within the excessive 80%. They don’t inform their household on a regular basis. In order that they actually look to see what’s taking place with their kids and possibly with their husband, their companion. In order that they do blinded research. , it’s a technique to see what’s taking place. And a number of the tales are actually touching.

Katie: I really like that. And that ties into our earlier dialog about being your personal major healthcare supplier and well being researcher. That’s an excellent circle that we created there.

And I really feel just like the EMF matter may turn into its personal entire podcast. And hopefully will probably be, as you guys do continued analysis on this, I’d like to circle again on it. However I really like that you simply talked about the thought of harmonizing versus simply blocking as a result of I believe, I’ve stated this earlier than, like EMFs are a factor that exists in our fashionable world. We are able to’t totally cover from them. Even when we lived in the midst of nowhere, they now are in house and directed on the planet, we will’t keep away from them.

In order that brings the query of how can we mitigate? Or I really like the phrase harmonize much more. After which extra precisely, like, how can we check that shifting ahead? As a result of we’re speaking about very nuanced know-how and easy EMF meters, they could check the presence of these issues, they may not check the impact on the physique. And I believe that’s the precise necessary query as a result of one thing is perhaps current. But when it’s not harmfully affecting the physique or been positively affecting the physique, we’re probably not measuring what we predict we’re measuring. And so, I really like that you simply guys are getting very particular in that analysis.

And I really like that you simply introduced up issues like grounding and the solar, that are great sources of EMFs that I believe typically get discounted. And I’m a giant fan of telling folks, “Once you get up, go outdoors within the daylight barefoot for quarter-hour, and that’s among the best medicines you will get and it’s free.” And that you simply form of tie in that idea into this know-how, which I do know you’ve talked about.

I’ll guarantee that that free trial is linked within the present notes for you guys listening. That hyperlink shall be at wellnessmama.fm. And you may also be taught. There’s a lot extra info in your web site than we’ve got time to enter in an hour’s podcast. However like I stated, possibly we will circle again and go very, very deep on EMFs, as an increasing number of analysis develops from you guys.

However I do really feel like we had a tremendous place to begin and engaging dialog about this matter. I do know, like I stated in the beginning, this can be a new idea for lots of people. It may be exhausting to understand. You talked about some assets, together with Dr. Hawkins’ work. I’ll hyperlink to that within the present notes as effectively, for anyone who’s not acquainted, and want to do some actually, actually enjoyable studying. And I need to respect your time and the viewers time at present. However earlier than we wrap up, I’d love to listen to if there are any books which have had a extremely profound impression on both of your lives and if that’s the case, what they’re and why.

Clayton: Perhaps, I’ll begin, we’ve been speaking about kinesiology quite a bit. And Dr. Hawkins’ first e book, “Energy vs. Pressure,” it’s a New York Instances bestseller. I fairly effectively canine eared my copy. The pages are falling out as a result of I’ve had it open. , I opened it up and overlook to shut it. And, after all, that impacts binding. So that will be one for me.

I may say another Hawkins. Dr. Hawkins has a e book I believe it’s known as, “Therapeutic and Restoration” or Well being and Therapeutic. I’m drawing a clean proper now. It’s a inexperienced one with the inexperienced stripe. That’s been a giant one. For any time that I’ve had a well being problem, I’ll go on to that. Nicely, I’ll move over to you, Jeff.

Jeff: I believe the latest e book that’s had a big impression on me is, “Tremendous Synchronicity” by Dr. Gary E. Schwartz. And its in depth analysis into synchronicities and the way they’re simply so past likelihood. , they’re simply nearly unimaginable. And what they inform us, and for me, it was that these synchronicities are pointing the way in which to some both way of life or connection to another person that may fulfill some intention that I’ve that these synchronicities present up. And that it’s a approach of divinity talking, you could possibly say, or a path within the movement of the universe. So I used to be actually struck by his scientific rigor that he introduced to essentially finding out synchronicity. In order that was one that actually, actually received me.

Katie: That may be a new suggestion for me. I’ll put that within the present notes. And I additionally simply added it to my Kindle. So, I’m excited to leap into that one. This was such a enjoyable dialog. Like I stated, I do know we went into some matters which may actually be new ones for lots of people. And I do know that you simply guys have lots of analysis. If persons are involved in studying extra or possibly really feel like they nonetheless don’t perceive how certainly one of these items we’ve talked about works, and so I’ll put some extra detailed hyperlinks to all of these. For you guys, for those who’re listening whilst you’re driving, otherwise you’re exercising, you could possibly discover all these within the present notes.

Any parting phrases or recommendation for anybody? It might be associated to this or not. I don’t, if I can get my very own. However one which I’ve in relation to consciousness and our personal expression into the world I really like, and any interplay with somebody to ask the query, like how can I really like this particular person finest on this second? However I’d love to listen to any parting recommendation that both of you will have.

Clayton: I’ll begin with that, possibly to provide you a second to assume, Jeff. I didn’t know you have been a doula. Otherwise you have been concerned in birthing different kids. So I don’t know if that’s a brilliant synchronicity. However that’s a cool synchronicity. And I simply received informed to inform that story. Generally, it’s fascinating to marvel the place our ideas come from, actually, it’s fascinating. We’ve explored that with kinesiology, you recognize, after we consider there’s angelic realms, and whenever you ask divinity for assist, and to bless different folks, you get helped.

And I believe love begets extra love. And I do know that your intention in the direction of folks you serve, Katie, is excessive, and it’s one of many issues we form of examined after we have been taking a look at speaking to you. And it’s like, “Wow, she actually cares concerning the folks she talked to.” So it was grateful to be within the firm of different individuals who have good intent. And for some purpose, my inside science geek needs to simply depart folks with a doable experiment, in addition to all of the management panel and issues in FLFE. Nicely, really this does relate to the management panel.

, there’s an EMF…as a result of your viewers actually is involved in that, you could possibly put your palms in your router after which have any individual flip the EMF mitigation on and off in your management panel in FLFE, and see in case your physique strikes in the direction of it or away from it, or a wise meter. Sensible meters, I actually discover. I don’t discover routers as a lot, however sensible meters, it’s like, wow, the power, after I simply maintain that, it’s prefer it begins to… I really feel like I begin to shrivel. After which after I activate the EMF mitigation within the management panel, then it’s like I can simply breathe and calm down. I really feel like my posture will get higher. It’s a extremely sensible, you recognize, do-it-yourself instance of one thing you possibly can simply attempt, you recognize. It doesn’t price you something. And we like to experiment. We’re form of geeks, so I simply attempt to move that on.

Jeff: Yeah, and speaking about fields of consciousness round us on a regular basis and these peak experiences that we’ve had in our lives, like births. There’s some timeless nature about these experiences the place, I’d say, let’s experiment by simply remembering or placing your self again in that beginning, that second, or some peak expertise. And that feeling is simply there. Like, it’s simply at present. Like, it’s taking place proper now.

And that there’s a timelessness in these fields that we will then use to entry anytime that we have to enhance, you recognize, that we’re in a, you recognize, powerful scenario the place our frustration or on the finish of our endurance, to name in that peak second, that discipline to activate that discipline round us. And that useful resource assist ourselves to be extra useful resource in that second. So, I’d simply depart with that.

Katie: I like it. I believe that’s an ideal place to place a pin in it for at present. However hopefully future conversations to come back. And for all of you listening, undoubtedly take a look at the opposite analysis out there on their web site, in addition to their 14-day free trial. In contrast to most issues on the web, you possibly can really simply attempt it. You don’t must enter your bank card and provides them your first youngster or something loopy to attempt it. You’ll be able to simply do it.

And I’m very curious to listen to from all of you listening, particularly on the EMF factor and the self-experimentation. That is, like I stated, a subject that we’re all going to cope with in our lifetimes. And I believe there’s nice methods to do it that aren’t simply dwelling in a cave. So I’m very grateful for you each being right here at present and sharing your analysis, which is, I believe, a brand new fascinating realm for lots of people listening and I’m simply studying about myself, so deep gratitude, and thanks to you each.

Clayten: Thanks, Katie.

Jeff: Thanks, Katie.

Katie: And as all the time, due to all of you for listening and sharing your most useful assets, your time, your power, and your consideration with us all at present. We’re so grateful that you simply did. And I hope that you’ll be a part of me once more on the subsequent episode of “The Wellness Mama Podcast.”

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